18:00:58 <kohsuke> #startmeeting 18:00:58 <robobutler> Let the Jenkins meeting commence! 18:01:05 <kohsuke> #chair rtyler hare_brain 18:01:06 <robobutler> Current chairs: hare_brain kohsuke rtyler 18:01:21 <kohsuke> #topic JUC status update / travel grant? 18:01:47 <kohsuke> hmm, doesn't look like lisa is here 18:02:08 <kohsuke> so maybe we should start with 1.554.1 RC status 18:02:18 <kohsuke> #topic 1.554.1 RC status 18:02:26 <kohsuke> jglick: ogondza: ping 18:02:33 <jglick> present 18:02:44 <ogondza> I have just sent status report to dev list 18:02:50 <kohsuke> ah indeed 18:03:03 <kohsuke> I wonder if marcomiller ported stuff he wanted in this LTS 18:03:14 <ogondza> He did. 18:03:18 <kohsuke> yay 18:03:28 <kohsuke> all right, then I'll produce RC today 18:03:43 <marcomiller> did indeed =) 18:04:01 <jglick> JENKINS-19081 was an RFE rather than a bug fix strictly speaking; did we want this backported? 18:04:04 <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-19081:Download update center from master by default (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/19081 18:04:31 <kohsuke> Hmm, there still is a lot of flakiness in the acceptance test 18:04:54 <ogondza> jglick, You are right though I like that a lot 18:05:29 <jglick> Well so do I obviously, but still. 18:06:11 <jglick> Could be interpreted as a fix only in case we *expect* browser-based downloading to be broken in the near future. 18:06:45 <jglick> Is there a list of lts-candidate issues which are too young for this or which were otherwise rejected? 18:07:03 <ogondza> LTSs https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=12146 18:08:01 <ogondza> no candidate was rejected. There was one issue that was labeled by mistake (already backported) 18:08:06 <jglick> OK, nothing that looks critical. 18:08:23 <ogondza> a lot was already in 1.554 18:08:37 <jglick> Seems like we are ready for RC. 18:08:41 <kohsuke> Yeah 18:08:48 <kohsuke> #agreed 1.554.1 RC is good to go 18:09:35 <kohsuke> ogondza: Maybe this is bit off topic but have you looked into why some of the acceptance tests appear so flaky? 18:09:42 <kohsuke> I will have to find time digging in myself 18:10:15 <kohsuke> One pattern I see is that it occasionally appears to fail to find tool installer data 18:10:16 <ogondza> not yet 18:10:39 <kohsuke> like https://jenkins.ci.cloudbees.com/job/core/job/acceptance-test-harness/156/testReport/ 18:10:45 <ogondza> I am still not happy about its stability 18:10:53 <kohsuke> Looks like this accounts for the majority of the randomness 18:11:23 <kohsuke> I was also going to try to run selenium on Sauce Labs by using our account 18:11:29 <kohsuke> That'll give us screenshots and all. 18:11:32 <kohsuke> Anyway 18:11:44 <jglick> Then maybe JENKINS-19081 should be used in the tests to download more reliably from master. :-) Once the tool metadata is fixed to include signatures, that is. 18:11:46 <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-19081:Download update center from master by default (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/19081 18:12:31 <kohsuke> #topic JUC status update / travel grant? 18:12:40 <kohsuke> LisaWells: yay you are here 18:12:52 <LisaWells> yes, here 18:12:55 <LisaWells> Alyssa too 18:12:57 <Alyssa> i can provide the status update 18:13:09 <kohsuke> It's all yours 18:13:40 <Alyssa> Registration for boston & berlins & israel is currently live 18:13:49 <Alyssa> boston= 70 registrants 18:13:50 <kohsuke> I've seen the submissions to JUC Berlin and they were all quite impressive 18:13:59 <Alyssa> berlin = 24 reg 18:14:08 <Alyssa> indeed 18:14:26 <Alyssa> israel = 4 reg 18:14:27 <kohsuke> I wonder if the dates are on Jenkins event calendar 18:14:40 <LisaWells> actually I was going to ask you today if you could put them there :) 18:14:41 <kohsuke> http://jenkins-ci.org/content/event-calendar 18:14:55 <kohsuke> Yeah they are not 18:15:03 * kohsuke goes off to add them 18:15:38 <kohsuke> I feel like folks in the events list should have write access to this calendar 18:15:44 <kohsuke> like kinow 18:15:45 <Alyssa> we are working on finalizing the agenda. hopefully we'll have agenda for boston/berlin up by early next wk 18:16:17 <Alyssa> agreed KK 18:17:01 <Alyssa> here are links to reg sites http://www.eventbrite.com/e/jenkins-user-conference-boston-ma-june-18-2014-tickets-10558652213 18:17:22 <Alyssa> for berlink http://www.eventbrite.com/e/jenkins-user-conference-berlin-germany-june-25-2014-tickets-10557974185 18:17:35 <rtyler> kohsuke: fyi, i'm around but I can't actively pay attention here 18:17:42 <rtyler> so please ping me if there's anything for me to chime in on 18:17:51 <Alyssa> israel http://www.eventbrite.com/e/jenkins-user-conference-herzliya-israel-july-16-2014-tickets-10558710387 18:18:01 <kohsuke> rtyler: no worries 18:18:49 <Alyssa> Early bird pricing will end soon boston: 4/19 berlin 4/27 18:18:51 <kohsuke> our usual German folks aren't really here: fredg, orrc, drulli 18:19:17 <kohsuke> Alyssa: you told me that finding a venue in Berlin turns out to be quite a challenge 18:19:26 <kohsuke> do you want to mention a bit about that? 18:19:40 <Alyssa> well, we're going with kosmos 18:19:56 <Alyssa> we're in contract w/ location so there's no turning back 18:19:59 <kohsuke> #info http://www.kosmos-berlin.de/en/home.html 18:20:13 <kohsuke> calendar added 18:20:58 <Alyssa> perhaps for future JUC Berlin we can get suggestions for venues but we 18:21:10 <Alyssa> are set for this one in june 18:21:22 <kohsuke> right 18:21:25 <orrc> Kosmos is next door to the computer games museum, so it's a good choice :) 18:21:28 <LisaWells> do we have a venue for Bay Area? 18:21:32 <LisaWells> if not, any suggestions? 18:21:57 <Alyssa> +orrc: thnx that's good to know :o) 18:22:04 <kohsuke> orrc: so we got some competition for attendance :-) 18:22:34 <Alyssa> LisaWells: we currently do not have a venue for bay area 18:22:48 <KostyaSha> is there any global proxy in jenkins? 18:23:00 <KostyaSha> is it plugins configuration? 18:23:04 <kohsuke> What about Yahoo folks that they said they are willing? 18:23:27 <kohsuke> I've been to their campus a few times and they got the 2nd floor of the cafeteria entirely for events 18:23:51 <Alyssa> haven't checked with them. who's the contact for that ? 18:24:12 <kohsuke> I have to dig that up, they were in the scalability summit 18:24:21 <kohsuke> Along the same line, netflix? 18:24:23 <Alyssa> can they host 400 -500 people ? 18:24:37 <Alyssa> i've received out to neflix but no response from them 18:25:07 <kohsuke> I don't know about 400 people, but Yahoo sites, it might 18:25:11 <hare_brain> I remember asking around with people still at Yahoo about the cafeteria, and they said they don’t rent that out. 18:25:54 <kohsuke> Now that Google Cloud Platform does Jenkins, maybe they can help? 18:26:44 <Alyssa> kohsuke: contact plz ? 18:26:57 <kohsuke> The event would have to be more community and less vendors, but then if the venue is free we don't need so many sponsors, so it just might work out... 18:27:15 <Alyssa> agreed 18:27:19 <kohsuke> It could be like how Copenhagen event is run 18:28:03 <kohsuke> hare_brain: how does various user groups get Yahoo venues for their events? 18:28:16 <kohsuke> It works because it's just a few hours in the evening? 18:28:27 <hare_brain> Yes. 18:28:34 <kohsuke> OK, that makes sense 18:29:08 <Alyssa> that's it for me for JUC status update. unless there are questions for me, i'll let lisa take it from here 18:29:37 <kohsuke> orrc: how do we get the words out in the developers in Berlin or broader Germany? 18:29:43 <LisaWells> so does anyone have good ideas to get the word out? 18:29:51 <LisaWells> KK just said what I was typing... 18:30:20 <kohsuke> Maybe some sites we can post ad? 18:30:29 <LisaWells> Same for Boston - need communities (JUGs, Agile groups, etc) who might help us spread the word 18:30:32 <kohsuke> Perhaps like german version of Hacker News... 18:31:07 <LisaWells> also - would anyone like to volunteer to help promote the JUCs? 18:31:40 <kohsuke> JAX is in May 18:32:00 <LisaWells> I think we are handing out JUC Berlin stickers at JAX? 18:32:01 <Alyssa> We have made JUC stickers to be passed out at JAX 18:32:13 <afex> hi, is it possible to load a private key from the credentials plugin during a shell build step? i'd like to grab the private key contents during some command line operations 18:32:18 <kohsuke> There'll be a lot of developers there, if only we know how to get there 18:32:20 <LisaWells> if anyone else wants a stock of JUC Berlin stickers, we could send them 18:32:44 <LisaWells> Devoxx is this month as well, right? 18:32:57 <baniir> why are users and credentials handled separately? i'm confused by the difference 18:33:17 <afex> unfortunately ruby's net-ssh doesn't seem to be compatible with the ssh-agent plugin, so i'm attempting to workaround it 18:33:19 <kohsuke> I thought that was in France 18:33:31 <Alyssa> Devoxx is in Paris I think. Cyrille mentioned French wont go to Germany for events 18:33:32 <kohsuke> afex: baniir: let's postpone the questions until after the project meeting 18:33:39 <LisaWells> yes, it is 18:33:43 <kohsuke> :-) that's what I suspected! 18:33:52 <LisaWells> hoping some might come - worth having the stickers there 18:34:01 <afex> kohsuke: didnt' realize this was an official meeting, sorry 18:34:08 <kohsuke> np 18:34:12 <LisaWells> people may also travel to Devoxx from Germany, no? 18:34:33 <kohsuke> jglick: did you get the e-mail between I sent to you and two other folks we met at the last Jenkins event in Boston? 18:34:42 <baniir> kohsuke: sure; also didn't realize a meeting was in progress 18:35:03 <jglick> kohsuke: have it somewhere 18:35:08 <kohsuke> I think having a periodic meetup going is good for multiple reasons 18:35:28 <kohsuke> ... one of which is that we can reach people who would be interested in events like this 18:35:36 <LisaWells> +1 18:36:33 <kohsuke> All right, let's hope that the banner deployment on Wiki and JIRA would spread the words 18:36:44 <orrc> yeah, I don't know what the German equivalent of Hacker News is. fredg or kutzi might have a better idea 18:37:01 <orrc> a lot of people read www.heise.de — they have an event calendar that I can try and add the JUC to 18:37:04 <LisaWells> once the agenda is up, how does everyone feel about spreading the link via their social media networks? 18:37:20 <fredg02> hey, sorry for being late 18:37:27 <kohsuke> orrc: I think that'd be very helpful 18:38:03 <Alyssa> orrc: how about log JUGs as lisa mentioned? 18:38:12 <kohsuke> fredg02: we were just wondering how to spread words to the German developers about JUC 18:38:53 <Alyssa> orrc: sorry meant local not log 18:39:11 <fredg02> we should definitely spread the word through the local Java user groups. 18:39:19 <kohsuke> This heise online must be somehow related to http://www.h-online.com/ 18:39:25 <danielbeck> any idea how to get on http://www.heise.de/ix/veranstaltungen/ ? 18:39:49 <danielbeck> kohsuke: h online was the English version of heise.de 18:40:20 <kohsuke> I forgot that danielbeck is a German, too 18:40:52 <kohsuke> ah, the wonder of Google Translate 18:41:42 <fredg02> yeah, heise.de shouldn't be a big problem. 18:41:59 <kohsuke> maybe we'd have to ask through http://www.heise.de/ix/kontakt/ 18:42:04 <LisaWells> alyssa: could we offer a bobblehead to people who volunteer to help promote JUC in Boston & Germany (to be picked up at the conference)? 18:42:21 <Alyssa> absolutely 18:42:34 <orrc> abayer will be talking at the JUG here in Cologne this month. I'm sure he can do some promotion 18:42:42 <Alyssa> we have jenkins badge pins this year too 18:43:07 <kohsuke> orrc: is he living in Germany nowadays or what? 18:43:08 <LisaWells> those are going to be super-cool - can't wait 18:43:19 <orrc> kohsuke: he's just here on holiday, as far as I know 18:43:36 <Alyssa> orrc: great idea!! that'll be helpful 18:44:34 <kohsuke> Any more on this topic? 18:44:54 <LisaWells> Do we want to talk about travel grants? 18:45:00 <kohsuke> Ah yes 18:45:21 <kohsuke> So we've launched the patron program and that raised $3000 18:46:07 <kohsuke> So I thought it might let us think about a future travel grant to one of the events 18:46:42 <LisaWells> in previous years, people have requested them but there was no funding source. 18:46:54 <kohsuke> Or if anyone can think of a good way to spend money for the benefit of the project, I'm all ears 18:47:25 <kohsuke> ... like finding some part time sysadmin who can help with up-keeping, perhaps 18:48:27 <kohsuke> All right, I don't really have much to add beyond that. Maybe I should send an e-mail to the list and see if anyone reacts 18:48:46 <kohsuke> #topic next meeting 18:49:13 <kohsuke> would be April 30th same time 18:49:27 <kohsuke> all right, that's it, thank you! 18:49:29 <kohsuke> #endmeeting