18:01:54 <kohsuke> #startmeeting 18:01:54 <robobutler> Let the Jenkins meeting commence! 18:02:15 <kohsuke> #chair abayer hare_brain rtyler 18:02:15 <robobutler> Current chairs: abayer hare_brain kohsuke rtyler 18:02:26 <hare_brain> Present 18:02:31 <kohsuke> #info https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Governance+Meeting+Agenda 18:02:34 <kohsuke> thank you, thank you 18:02:48 <kohsuke> alyssa_: is that you, alyssa? 18:02:56 <kohsuke> #topic JUC Palo Alto discussion and feedback 18:02:56 <alyssa_> hi. yes it's me 18:03:18 <kohsuke> I still owe the banner update on JIRA, Wiki, and main website 18:03:37 <alyssa_> yes..lisa has noted :o) 18:04:01 <kohsuke> what else would you like us to discuss? 18:04:21 <alyssa_> We need help w/ promoting the conference. We are currently running a promo BEE-JUC 18:04:49 <alyssa_> we're asking the community to pls promote to their network 18:05:21 <alyssa_> we also will live stream one track so for those who can't attend in person, pls promote the live stream 18:05:21 <kohsuke> maybe another blog post? 18:05:38 <alyssa_> https://www.eventbrite.com/event/8328596055 18:05:48 <alyssa_> sure i can do another blog..after J1 plz 18:06:17 <kohsuke> I didn't realize live stream also needed RSVP 18:06:18 <alyssa_> one that thing. black diamond sw is sponsoring beer and they want to know what beer to bring 18:06:36 <kohsuke> that'd be a great blog post 18:06:39 <alyssa_> any suggestions ? 18:07:10 <alyssa_> well, i did include the beer in my initial blog but no suggestions yet 18:07:13 * kohsuke thought hare_brain is a food critic and rtyler is a beer freak 18:08:02 <kohsuke> maybe we can put a few choices up there and encourage people to vote? 18:08:03 <alyssa_> no beer suggestions? i can't believe you guys don't have a fav ? 18:08:38 <kohsuke> I mean I have no clue what choices are available 18:09:03 <hare_brain> I am not a beer person, but Anchor Steam seems like the logical choice, since it's local. 18:09:08 <alyssa_> just name your fav beer and we'll try to get that..we need something to start w/ :o) 18:09:11 <rtyler> anchor steam is fine 18:09:16 <alyssa_> thank you 18:09:28 <rtyler> there's also trumer pils for a local pilsner 18:09:35 <rtyler> from berkeley 18:09:37 <epu> http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/the-best-beers-in-california-2013-california-state-fair-winners/ 18:09:53 <alyssa_> ah thnx 18:10:06 <alyssa_> that's it for me Kohsuke. thank you 18:10:06 <kohsuke> looks like http://www.gordonbiersch.com/ sells kegs, too 18:10:35 <epu> has Redwood City beers from freewheel brewing, and drakes Amber from San Leandro. Logistics of dealing with small breweries not withstanding. 18:10:50 * epu lurks 18:10:52 <kohsuke> alyssa_: I'm willing to go drop by at the site and write a blog post if the site is open to public 18:11:03 <kohsuke> epu: thanks! 18:11:18 <epu> kohsuke: no sweat! 18:11:24 <alyssa_> thanks Kohsuke! that's be great 18:11:43 <kohsuke> It's on the same street after all 18:12:23 <kohsuke> OK, moving on... 18:12:33 <kohsuke> #topic Event coordination for winter — SCALE? FOSDEM? 18:12:42 <kohsuke> I saw an e-mail from FOSDEM calling for stands 18:12:51 <rtyler> I haven't sent that 18:13:03 <rtyler> I did get the Testing and Automation devroom proposal in with maybe 15 minutes to spare :p 18:13:04 <kohsuke> rtyler: are you going to run a devroom like the last year? 18:13:09 <kohsuke> OK, you do 18:13:26 <rtyler> ideally, I can also send the stands request this next weekend 18:13:59 <rtyler> for scale, I might not be able to do as much for scale 18:14:15 <kohsuke> Majost: ^^ 18:14:30 <kohsuke> #info SCALE is Feb 21-23 18:14:43 <kohsuke> FOSDEM is Feb 1-2 18:15:16 <orrc> I'll be at FOSDEM again, so if we have a stand, great 18:15:29 <kohsuke> rsandell: are you coming to FOSDEM? 18:15:55 <kohsuke> is it worth trying to attach another event to FOSDEM, like Praqma did in Copenhagen? 18:16:08 <rsandell> Don't know yet, I'm spending most of my travel budget for Palo Alto 18:16:22 <kohsuke> I've heard CloudBees have an office in Brussels. We might be able to occupy that 18:16:39 <rsandell> That is always a good idea 18:17:03 <kohsuke> #action kohsuke to write to the dev list to gauge the interest of an event attached to FOSDEM 18:17:04 <jnix> Any tips for getting jenkins running under jboss? I'm a noob in both cases 18:17:19 <kohsuke> jnix: let's come back to that after this meeting 18:17:58 <kohsuke> any interest in figuring out selling stuff? 18:18:10 <kohsuke> Do you think it'd be worth bringing some T-shirts from cafepress? 18:18:40 <rtyler> kohsuke: I running between meetings right now, please use the fosdem mailing list for any pertinent conclusions you guys come up with 18:18:43 * rtyler bounces 18:18:51 <kohsuke> ok 18:19:22 <rsandell> Most other stands I visited at FOSDEM was selling t-shirts, so it seems like an accepted thing there. 18:19:44 <orrc> yeah, t-shirts would be good. last year we discussed getting them locally, like Fred did with the flyers, rather than buying more expensive stuff and making you guys bring it from the US :) 18:19:44 <kohsuke> Yes. And there has always been some people asking for it in the last few years 18:20:12 <kohsuke> orrc: if someone is willing to figure out the logistics in Europe it'd be far better 18:20:15 <rsandell> Yes it would be bulky to bring on a plane 18:20:24 <kohsuke> The only reason I'm suggesting Cafepress is because it's easier. 18:20:33 <orrc> yeah, I'm fine with working on that 18:20:49 <kohsuke> great 18:21:09 <rsandell> Cafepress is delivering to Europe as well 18:21:25 <rsandell> if we can't find anything local 18:22:41 <Majost> holy crap 18:22:42 <kohsuke> Let's start small so as not to pile up boxes of unsold T-shirts 18:22:47 <Majost> its SCALE already? 18:23:03 <autojack> shoot, I should have checked in earlier. I wanted to ask something about JUC. my company is a sponsor. 18:23:15 <kohsuke> Majost: it's closer to the next one than the last one, yeah 18:23:20 <kohsuke> autojack: thanks! 18:23:30 <kohsuke> autojack: you can still ask 18:23:36 <autojack> just trying to figure out how else we can help. 18:23:37 <kohsuke> alyssa_ is still here 18:23:57 <autojack> I didn't get my act together in time to come up with a half-baked talk idea ;) 18:24:03 <autojack> nothing obvious jumped out at me on that front 18:24:36 <autojack> we have been actively promoting it via our Twitter 18:25:01 <autojack> I can try to think of other avenues, but we don't have e.g. a popular internal engineering blog read by the community 18:25:19 <kohsuke> I remember some early conversations about "meet the experts" where ... 18:26:09 <kohsuke> we put up a schedule for meeting "known" people in the community for like 15 mins each 18:26:15 <anarcat> hi 18:26:20 <Majost> kohsuke: I will have to sync up with you later... I have a meeting in a few minutes. 18:26:29 <kohsuke> Majost: thanks 18:26:30 <zxvff> brb i have a meeting to attend 18:26:33 <anarcat> we're having a huge problem with our jenkins server: it just starts sucking up all CPU when starting, and hangs there 18:27:00 <anarcat> there are tons of warnings in the log... let me paste a few 18:27:03 <kohsuke> so we do "11am: autojack, 11:15am: rsandell, 11:30am kohsuke, ..." 18:27:36 <kohsuke> is something like that useful to try? 18:27:47 <kohsuke> anarcat: let's come back to that after the meeting 18:27:58 <anarcat> oh sorry, didn't know you were in a meeting 18:28:04 <anarcat> ( http://paste.debian.net/42489/ 18:28:06 <anarcat> ) :) 18:28:13 <autojack> yeah, stand by :) 18:28:33 <kohsuke> autojack: if you are interested in organizing something like that, I suspect it'd be good 18:28:45 <alyssa_> autojack: was there a question for JUC ? 18:29:12 <autojack> alyssa_: yeah, I work for BrightRoll, we're a sponsor. just looking for some ways we can help out. I'm just an engineer though :) 18:29:26 <autojack> we have an event coordinator who is handling non-technical aspects of contributing. 18:29:56 <autojack> kohsuke: interesting idea, I hesitate to call myself an "expert," more of a battle-scarred soldier. har har. 18:29:59 <autojack> hmm 18:30:04 <alyssa_> we can always use a helping hand w/ promotions. pls have her contact me atong@cloudbees.com 18:30:11 <autojack> alyssa_: OK 18:30:21 <kohsuke> autojack: To me the idea is to put the face to the names you see 18:30:26 <autojack> yeah 18:30:55 <kohsuke> so it doesn't have to be an expert but in the agenda I want to see things that remind me who they are --- the twitter icons / IRC nicks / etc 18:31:00 <autojack> are you thinking Q&A, or brief introductions/lightning talk from the experts, erc? 18:31:24 <autojack> like I have been working on a series of blog posts about my favorite plugins 18:31:37 <autojack> wouldn't make enough content for a long talk, but I could throw out 5 minutes on it 18:31:43 <autojack> or my painful learnings about Matrix jobs ;) 18:31:44 <autojack> hehe 18:31:53 <kohsuke> I could be just a meet and greet or Q&A 18:31:56 <autojack> yeah 18:31:59 <kohsuke> Or maybe it could be a show & tell? 18:32:07 <rsandell> sounds cool 18:32:07 <autojack> interesting. 18:32:08 <autojack> OK I like it. 18:32:20 <autojack> I can try to get something together. 18:32:27 <autojack> should we discuss more offline/later? 18:32:33 <kohsuke> sure 18:32:38 <autojack> identify some likely people, etc etc. 18:32:40 <autojack> OK. 18:33:24 <kohsuke> lunch time and exhibit time has 1:45, so it can be 15min x 7 people 18:33:27 <kohsuke> anyway 18:33:59 <autojack> OK 18:34:10 <autojack> I will put something in my sprint at work so I have time set aside. 18:34:26 <kohsuke> #topic next meeting time 18:34:47 <kohsuke> BTW sorry about missing the last one --- I forgot that I was travelling 18:35:02 <kohsuke> #info the next meeting time would be Oct 2nd 18:35:07 <kohsuke> the same time 18:35:21 <kohsuke> #endmeeting