18:03:15 #startmeeting 18:03:15 Let the Jenkins meeting commence! 18:03:27 #info agenda https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Governance+Meeting+Agenda#GovernanceMeetingAgenda-October31thMeeting 18:03:35 chair me! 18:03:45 #chair rtyler hare_brain abayer 18:03:45 Current chairs: abayer hare_brain kohsuke rtyler 18:03:59 #topic Recap last meeting's items 18:04:08 #info https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+MEETING+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESC&mode=hide 18:04:11 kohsuke: this is pretty much all you :P 18:04:17 Yes sir 18:04:33 I'm afraid no progress to report 18:04:36 and that link isn't useful, whatever it's supposed to be :P 18:04:52 kohsuke: survey banner was added across the board 18:04:54 It's supposed to show all the open issues in the 'MEETING' project 18:05:02 jenkinsci-cert? 18:05:28 I forget what that is 18:05:31 Ouch, yes, let me at least add that 18:05:43 gah, I tried configuring ldap login but failed.. and now I can't login anymore. how can I change config.xml to set it back to internal users ? 18:05:46 I need to add people to the group and set the context 18:06:19 * kohsuke files a ticket for this 18:06:21 LeLutin: hold that thought for a bit, we're holding a project meeting right now 18:06:24 LeLutin: we're in the middle of a meeting, but this shoudl help: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Disable+security 18:07:15 created https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/MEETING-7 18:07:16 rtyler, orrc: oh ok. thanks for your time. I'll have a look at that page 18:07:39 Let's move on to the next topic 18:07:54 #topic Take over "Jenkins users and developers" group at meetup.com 18:08:15 The context is that we have occasionally used http://www.meetup.com/jenkinsmeetup/ in the past to organize meet-ups all around the world 18:08:23 but the cost of this came out of abayer's pocket 18:08:31 and that's expiring now 18:08:49 so two options is to either have the project take it over (for the cost of $150/year) 18:08:59 ... or let it lapse and use other free services 18:09:13 looking back over the recent events that have been organized through it, and considering the goal of community organized events, I think we should foot the bill 18:09:18 LisaWells or Heidi suggested that we can try eventbrite 18:09:27 meetup.com is, at least in the US, the most common way to organize these things 18:10:10 do you know of any user-meetups/events driven through eventbirte? 18:10:17 I've only seen it for company-driven things 18:10:28 Not really, but they said it does let us keep track of RSVPs against a certain capacity 18:11:01 ... which is the main thing we get out of meetup.com today, I think 18:11:05 I'm not sure how open it is compared to meetup, which has the meetup "feed" comments, etc 18:11:16 I don't think eventbrite has any of those 18:11:36 in the grand scheme of things, I personally don't think $150 nets out to enough to worry about it 18:11:54 the one downside AFAIK of eventbrite is that RSVPs aren't listed 18:11:55 Yeah, I think it's OK for us to spend $150 18:12:04 hare_brain: any thoughts on this? 18:12:24 +1 for continuing to use meetup.com 18:12:52 OK, let's do that then 18:12:56 I'll take it 18:13:06 #action rtyler to renew the meetup.com group thingie 18:13:21 #agreed project will take over the meetup.com group 18:13:49 moving on to the next topic... 18:14:03 #topic sticker budget for SCALE11x and FOSDEM 18:14:14 This was my agenda item 18:14:22 we don't need to spend much time on it 18:14:25 I just wanted to check: 18:14:31 #info I have enough stickers on hand right now --- I believe I ordered this batch just a few months ago 18:14:35 how many stickers did we bring to FOSDEM last year 18:14:42 by enough I mean at least 1000 and probably 1500+ 18:15:02 last year in FOSDEM I believe I brought 250-300 and used them all 18:15:14 I think we should plan to have at least 400 for FOSDEM 18:15:19 SCALE was little less 18:15:31 then it sounds like we'll get by with our current sticker allotment :) 18:15:36 Yes 18:15:40 But that reminds me 18:15:45 We should get a better flyer 18:15:48 #info we have ~1000-1500 stickers currently 18:16:03 anybody know designers? :P 18:16:20 I'll check with LisaWells if she can do it or whoever she normally uses it can do it for us 18:16:31 rtyler: There are a bunch sitting right near the iOS team ;D 18:16:39 jorgenpt: did you forget some? 18:16:50 rtyler: I mean designers. 18:16:55 oh 18:16:59 they're not mine to bother 18:17:02 Trololo. 18:17:05 I think the primary thing we need an input from here is the content 18:17:26 agreed, let's take this to the mailing list perhaps and discuss with a broader audience 18:17:33 perhaps the survey results can help guide this? 18:17:41 for example, I don't think the graph that showed installation count was effective --- it had no labels neither on X/Y axes 18:17:53 * rtyler nods 18:18:03 Yes, possibly 18:18:05 next topic? 18:18:19 #action kohsuke to write an e-mail soliciting feedback for flyer 18:18:37 rtyler: can you check your designers or are they "not yours to bother"? 18:18:54 they're not mine to bother 18:19:01 ok 18:19:07 #topic Accepting donations in Europe 18:19:08 I can probably ask if they have time, but they're Lookout specific :) 18:19:23 orrc: your time to shine buddy 18:19:34 rtyler: Oh then please ask. The worst thing that can happen is "no" 18:20:00 kohsuke: I'm not comfortable asking, they have zero overlap with the Jenkins project 18:20:08 all right. no problem. 18:20:30 orrc: so who's "Euro-friends-of-SPI"? 18:21:48 http://www.ffis.de/Verein/spi-en.html 18:22:06 sorry, was busy for a sec 18:22:07 this site is definitely located in the EU 18:22:10 * rtyler waits patiently 18:22:18 "associated projects of SPI which are more or less automatically also associated to ffis e.V" 18:22:25 so, I emailed these guys and asked about that there sentence 18:22:44 they want a "formal letter" emailed to their board asking for association and handling of donations 18:22:54 "Apart from that we'd need a project liaison who may authorise reimbursement requests or receipts for ffis to pay on behalf of the project" 18:23:09 "We can offer you a view to the Jenkins part of the bank account once an connection is established." 18:23:13 OK, I guess that'd be the interim board 18:23:29 but that was basically it.. i.e. it seems possible and straightforward 18:23:36 yeah, this looks promising 18:23:41 And I can write that e-mail. 18:24:30 orrc: thanks for bringing this up again, and I agree, we should try to nail this down before fosdem 18:24:56 ok. I'll send kohsuke the details 18:25:00 So this is primarily a German entity? 18:25:34 #action orrc to send kohsuke more details on the ffis 18:25:45 I know I'm getting tangential here, but personally, I'd love to get orrc on the board and have him interact with them! 18:26:09 I wonder if this is something I need to inform SPI about? 18:26:09 kohsuke: yup. basically the "Association for the Advancement of Free Software and Information" 18:26:31 ... that we are also dating with others 18:26:51 #action kohsuke to send a heads-up to SPI about this just so they know 18:27:54 I guess that's it for the day 18:28:24 If vjuranek is here we can briefly sync up about LTS status 18:28:34 #topic next meeting time 18:28:56 Nov 14th, same time? 18:28:59 (that's the usual time) 18:29:01 that works for me 18:29:01 +1 18:29:10 I think after that it gets spotty until 2013 :P 18:29:22 #info beware of daylight saving time change 18:29:29 OH NOES 18:29:38 Oh yeah. Is that happening between now and then? 18:29:44 Yes. Nov 4th 18:29:49 14th 18:29:51 oh, right 18:29:53 the switch 18:30:08 or last week, if you're in Europe! 18:30:10 Oh this weekend. I had no idea. 18:30:27 so please double check the posted meeting time. I believe it'll be one hour later than usual for the rest of the world 18:30:40 or if you are in Europe, this one was the odd ball 18:30:40 anyway 18:30:50 thanks everyone 18:30:54 #endmeeting