18:02:01 #startmeeting 18:02:01 Let the Jenkins meeting commence! 18:02:04 that's the ticket 18:02:14 #chair abayer hare_brain rtyler 18:02:14 Current chairs: abayer hare_brain kohsuke rtyler 18:02:24 #topic https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Governance+Meeting+Agenda 18:02:49 #topic recap of actions 18:02:53 #info http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins/2012/jenkins.2012-06-27-18.01.html 18:03:05 I'm afraid I haven't made any progress at all 18:03:18 #action kohsuke to write to active users of svn.jenkins-ci.org that they can move to GitHub very easily if they want 18:03:24 #action kohsuke to write a scanner that auto-adds Jenkins jobs for plugins 18:03:32 #action kohsuke to split buildhive code into smaller pieces and install them to jenkins.ci.cloudbees.com 18:03:44 #action rtyler to make sure vjuranek have the sauce labs credentials 18:03:48 (I think I have the credential) 18:03:55 whoops 18:04:02 I knew I forgot 18:04:04 something 18:04:22 I see your jykyl work, but where are we on Confluence and ircbot? 18:04:35 the latter is something I'd be happy to do 18:04:41 ircbot is stalled, just needs packaging 18:04:52 I guess for the time being I can stage the secret outside puppet 18:04:54 nobody responded to my email to the infra list on confluence :( 18:05:02 my bad 18:05:12 I'm more convinced now we need our own internal apt repo 18:05:19 aye yes, that one 18:05:24 for ircbot, crawlers, stats tsuff, confluence, eventually jira 18:05:26 +1 18:05:48 yeah, it makes sense 18:05:57 I'll add a ticket in infra-puppet for myself 18:06:03 that's actually pretty farkin' easy to set up 18:07:03 OK, that's it for this part, then? 18:07:06 https://github.com/jenkinsci/infra-puppet/issues/45 18:07:07 yes 18:07:20 #topic How much if any advertisement is acceptable on plugin page 18:07:42 for reference https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Warnings+Plugin 18:07:53 another might be: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/ClearCase+UCM+Plugin 18:08:09 This isn't an easy question. 18:08:19 I don't necessarily think we nede a resolution here 18:08:24 I think the two are different 18:08:27 the UCM plugin actually makes a lot of sense to me 18:08:31 Agreed. 18:09:01 I guess it's the reference to an Android game (which presumably have nothing to do with Jenkins) that makes it unique 18:10:11 Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. 18:10:24 On the one hand, Ulli is entitled to ask for support for his work. 18:10:35 Part of me says "Screw it, who cares?" But my admitted bias towards Ulli is there. 18:10:36 On the other hand, I don't like the idea of ads cluttering up the wiki pages 18:10:53 Try to abstract away from Ulli. 18:11:01 s/Ulli/Billy Bob Plugin Dev/ 18:11:10 Yup. 18:11:43 "work sponsored by" to me is great 18:12:41 all right, so sounds like we can ask him to do it like ClearCase UCM, and see if he's OK with moving the ad to a page linked from his logo? 18:13:01 The clearcase logos aren't even links. 18:13:01 Works for me. 18:13:01 and if he feels strongly about this, we'll come back to this 18:14:18 hare_brain: I think having links on those images are OK 18:14:59 sounds like simple enough criteria to me if we want to make it a clear rule 18:15:01 I'll let you guys discuss, I need to run off to other things 18:16:04 hare_brain: is the course of action OK, or are you uncomfortable allowing links? 18:16:18 Yeah I think it's fine. I'm just going through in my head if we want to charge a "traffic acquisition cost" to the referre to page. 18:16:49 No disagreement from me. 18:17:00 Just thinking about other revenue opportunities. :) 18:17:24 I'm sure we can actually sell "the real estate" on the top page, etc., if we want 18:17:42 I believe codehaus puts Google adwords on every page 18:19:10 #action kohsuke to contact ulli to see if "logo + link to somewhere that hosts his ad" would be reasonable to him CC-ing board 18:19:29 OK, I think we can just wrap this up for the day 18:19:51 #topic next meeting time 18:20:20 It'd be 7/25 same time 18:20:38 ... which means me, abayer, rtyler will be traveling 18:20:48 Well, technically, I fly out the next day. =) 18:21:22 ah, ok, then let's just put it in there 18:21:35 you guys can cancel it if you see fit 18:22:02 is that OK? 18:22:13 okiedokie 18:22:23 #agreed next meeting is 7/25 same time 18:22:28 #endmeeting