18:03:46 #startmeeting 18:03:47 Let the Jenkins meeting commence! 18:04:00 #topic Jenkins Roadmap updates 18:04:24 #info Jenkins public roadmap JEP is published: https://github.com/jenkinsci/jep/tree/master/jep/14 18:04:42 oleg-nenashev: Just want to mention what an awesome job you've done on the roadmap stuff, it looks really good 18:04:44 #info Roadmap draft: https://jenkins.io/project/roadmap/ 18:04:56 Slide-O-Mix: thanks! A lot to add there though 18:05:22 It's a great start and looks really nice. Your work is MUCH appreciated! 18:05:40 One bleeding weakness of the roadmap is a shallow "Jenkins jobs and integrations" category. Which is basically "Features for Jenkins end users" 18:06:25 If there is any SIG which have items for this category, it would be awesome. I am going to submit a few proposals to the developer mailing list soon 18:07:33 E.g., for [in]sanity check: (1) Tekton Pipelines support in Jenkins, (2) Container Steps support - native container steps without running Pipelines inside them 18:08:25 Slide-O-Mix: thanks for your feedback, much appreciated! I am also looking for a BDFL delegate for JEP-14. Would you be interested? 18:08:59 I am not super up on the JEP process, so I am not sure what I would need to do, but I can review and be happy to help out in whatever way I can 18:09:07 I agree with slide that the roadmap is a great step forward. 18:09:08 It is probably a case when we need a board member as a BDFL delegate 18:09:32 oleg-nenashev: I am more than happy to help out 18:09:42 #action oleg_nenashev to follow-up with Slide-O-Mix about being the JEP-14 delegate 18:10:20 #info Roadmap discussion in the Documentation SIG: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-docs/5kcPM82fn8Y 18:10:38 ^ we encourage all SIGs and subprojects to start such discussions 18:11:22 Slide-O-Mix markyjackson markewaite while we are here, are there any items you would like to add to "Future"? 18:12:01 Platform SIG will review roadmap topics tomorrow in meeting. Docs SIG is trying a different approach with trying condorcet style voting on proposals. 18:12:13 I can't think of anything right now 18:12:17 Nothing from me 18:12:29 I think we should start official roadmap meetings soon as JEP-14 suggests, but it would be great to start discussing it earlier 18:12:51 Speaking of that, what if we convert the next Governance meeting into a roadmap meeting? 18:12:59 I think for future, maybe Jenkins 3.0? ;) jk 18:13:08 .... or at least dedicate a chunk of time to that 18:13:43 Slide-O-Mix: I am happy to discuss Jenkins 3.0, especially if we could break it down to some stories/area we would like to achieve 18:14:09 Yes, let's dedicate a significant portion of next governance meeting to roadmap. 18:14:12 oleg-nenashev: I think for me, a big Jenkins 3.0 thing would be remove deprecated stuff and clean things up 18:14:15 Sounds good to me 18:14:18 Not to even mention finding contributors to make it happen 18:14:22 ja 18:14:54 #agreed we will use the next Governance meeting as a venue for the roadmap meeting as specified in JEP-14 18:15:07 Do we want to do it in a chat? Or a recordedcall? 18:15:25 I think audio/video would be good 18:15:54 I am ready to try it. The chat format is not very popular 18:16:17 markewaite markyjackson wdyt? 18:16:41 Count me in 18:16:49 Recorded call is better for me. I'm "in". 18:17:23 #agreed Next Jenkins Governance Meeting will be held as a recorded video call. We will still do meeting notes 18:17:38 sounds good 18:17:42 OK, let's move on then. Thanks all for your feedback! 18:17:47 #topic Event updates 18:17:48 +1 18:18:13 #info We are starting a series of Jenkins Online Meetups, and we are looking for speakers! 18:18:45 #info Main theme for April/May - Jenkins in Kubernetes. First meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Jenkins-online-meetup/events/269888701/ 18:18:55 Thanks to markyjackson for stepping up! 18:19:00 That sounds awesome! 18:19:10 Most welcome! 18:19:15 I have 4 extra meetups in my pipeline now 18:19:22 Wow! 18:20:24 With JAMs being impacted by COVID-19, this is something we could do to promote Jenkins. I will be sending announcements to JAM organizers one I have documentation about our online meetup platform 18:20:46 Docs SIG would like to add a roadmap item "Jenkins in Kubernetes". Initially create a solutions page on jenkins.io, link to webinar recordings, etc. Ultimately evolve to deeper docs 18:21:18 Currently we use CDF Zoom, and this is a big deal right now. My action item is to check our limits 18:21:27 I would love to help there @markewaite 18:21:50 It is probable that we are limited to 100 users, and markyjackson is too popular to be limited by such small number 18:22:08 Haha 18:22:09 Also on my plate 18:22:39 I have a paid zoom account we can use which has a 500 user limit if that helps 18:22:57 markyjackson: great option as a plan B 18:23:05 CDF Zoom is a pain anyways 18:23:32 waiting for a dedicated Zoom account for Jenkins, tracymiranda and alyssat_ are on it 18:23:44 Nice! 18:24:15 so let's see 18:24:29 Any questions or other topics? 18:24:45 markewaite: Thanks for the docs SIG update by the way 18:25:08 Everybody, get ready to our pings about documentation and blogposts about K8s :) 18:25:13 And anything else actually 18:25:43 * markyjackson can’t wait 18:25:50 :+1 18:25:57 #topic Next meeting 18:26:01 As usual? 18:26:15 Yes, sounds good 18:26:23 It would be April 22, 6PM UTC 18:26:45 #info Next meeting - April 22, 6PM UTC . We will be doing a video call! 18:26:58 Thanks Slide-O-Mix markyjackson markewaite ! 18:27:04 #endmeeting